Death Run server update topic

[Lossy 1968]

I can't magically make them enjoy other maps

[Sentrex 785]

http://raid-gaming.net/forums/topic/1545-remove-overplayed-maps/?p=24328

[OwO 110]

You are saying true things, but some maps became so annoying, so there are two groups of people - first group is tired and wants new maps, and second group prefer to play these maps.. Mostly, second group contains newer players, that entered Raid Deathrun in 2015 or 2014...We just need to make a pleasure for both.

[Lossy 1968]

changing xp values does nothing as already proven with trying to get players to activate.

[Sentrex 785]

changing xp values does nothing as already proven with trying to get players to activate.

You've proven XP doesn't work with activating. You haven't proven it doesn't work with map voting.

[Lossy 1968]

No, I've proven that people don't care about XP.

[Darmuh 1090]

*ahem*

http://raid-gaming.net/forums/topic/1545-remove-overplayed-maps/page-2#entry24585

 

edit: an alternative to the above idea is to limit the player's options in the map vote to just 2 maps. At the very least it'll cause a small amount of forced "variety"

[Sentrex 785]

That could would too.

I don't see how you(Lossy) can rule out an entire idea because something vaguely similar failed.

[Lossy 1968]

I've tried to sort out a lot of problems with deathrun by giving more XP and every single time it has failed, so why waste my time with a new map vote system based on XP?

 

Things i've tried with maps in the past

 

Set rotation - becomes boring because maps are always played around the same time and people would complain that they missed their favourite map

 

Default map vote system - Same problem now but worse

 

Put unpopular maps only on the server - lost a lot of population

 

Have 6 different map rotations with 10 different maps - Has worked the best as it's made the top 5 most popular maps played less but now we have around 15 of the same maps constantly played

 

Put around the most popular maps in the same rotation and the unpopular ones in the same rotation which didn't actually change anything.

 

Honestly, it's a map vote, the most vote wins end off, i don't see any reasoning of trying to force players to vote for maps they don't want on or make them vote even more randomly hoping they get the map they want.

 

You want people to vote for maps you want to play? get them on your side.

 

With the mapvote, i don't want to try and force others to vote unpopular maps, i don't want to turn it from map vote system to completely random vote system. But imo there a balance between popular and unpopular maps otherwise the top 5 most played maps would be played more and you have to remember there like 20 popular maps played on raid server, that's more than any other active deathrun server which is 40% of the map rotation. (60 maps on the rotation in total)

 

Sorry if i'm seem like a pain in the ass about it, but it's what the stats tell me and the request of maps you guys are telling me to get rid off as well.

[Triton 497]

Side note, this looks really cool with all the maps actually there

P.S i sent a bunch of new map vote screens to our lord and savior @Lossy, so should be less of that missing map shit :')

[OwO 110]

AR51 deathrun is a good example of success decision, they had map rotation...and nobody ever complained, population was constant. 

Raid become very popular community, so I think that people will not avoid Raid for maps they don't like.

They will still connect to Raid Deathrun simply because it's Raid Deathrun.

I may be wrong tho :C

[Sheep_Wizard 183]

AR51 deathrun is a good example of success decision, they had map rotation...and nobody ever complained, population was constant. 

 

This did have problems, poorly made map rotation and long periods of the same rotation gets boring. 

 

I would say having 6 different map rotations would of be best or use darmuhs idea of having random maps in the vote.

[~Budzy~ 661]

i remember slaya saying some shit like if it was made so that a map couldn't get played until another 6 or so maps were played after or something, youll have to ask him again

 

 

for all i know it could have been said in here but im lazy and dont read it through properly